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Inside Beijing's Temple of Heaven

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

During their summit here in Beijing, Chinese President Xi Jinping took President Trump to the Temple of Heaven. The landmark was closed for their visit. It reopened today, and people danced under the trees.

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UNIDENTIFIED PERSON: (Singing in non-English language).

INSKEEP: Crowds flowed toward the temple, which is a cluster of red buildings surrounding a wooden tower.

This must have been a breathtaking structure to behold when it was built in 1420. The size, the scale is immense.

JENNIFER PAK, BYLINE: It's breathtaking now.

INSKEEP: We were there with our China correspondent, Jennifer Pak, and a few thousand friends.

I know we're trying not to photobomb people 'cause everyone's taking a picture. But there is no way...

PAK: It's impossible.

INSKEEP: There's no way to avoid photobombing people.

PAK: It's impossible. Now you can see the scale of maybe what 1.4 billion people might be like.

INSKEEP: Jasmine Ling is our producer here in Beijing. So we have what looks like a gold-framed picture, immense, at the top of this temple, and it's a field of blue and three Chinese characters. What do they say? What do they mean?

JASMINE LING, BYLINE: It says in Chinese, (speaking Chinese). And that means hall of prayer for good harvest.

INSKEEP: In 1420, only an emperor could have commanded the resources to build this. It expressed the emperor's power. The temple was also a source of power. It was said the Chinese emperor ruled thanks to the mandate of heaven. Jennifer Pak says Beijing's newer buildings also send messages about power. She moved here 20 years ago when China was building new skyscrapers, like the one whose shape reminds people of a pair of pants.

PAK: It is a monstrosity. This is the state broadcaster CCTV's building. And remember, this was back in 2006, 2007, leading up to the Beijing Olympics, which was really China's coming-out party. They were trying to say to the world, we have arrived. And for foreign observers, I think they were looking for signs of China opening up, which really meant Western signals. So you see these architectures that are steel structures, that are futuristic-looking, and they said...

INSKEEP: A lot of glass.

PAK: Yeah. And they say, wow, this is China. It's going to enter into the modern world 'cause that was the basis of the U.S.-China relationship.

INSKEEP: What has China's president, Xi Jinping, said about that wild architecture of modern times, that said China is international and open to the world?

PAK: Apparently, he's not a fan because in 2014, he said people should stop building these weird buildings. Those were his actual quotes. And he came in and basically said we should have cultural confidence. We should be confident in our Chineseness, in our Chinese history. That's why, when visiting dignitaries, including President Trump comes, that's where they bring them to, a place like this, to show...

INSKEEP: The Temple of Heaven.

PAK: Yeah, to show them the awesome power of China's buildings.

INSKEEP: We don't know what's really going through the presidents' minds, but I would imagine when two presidents stand outside something like this place, the Temple of Heaven, a thought that might occur to them is, there was an emperor hundreds of years ago, and he built this thing, and it's still here for people to look at today.

PAK: Absolutely. And I think President Xi had told President Trump that you want to make America great again. I want to make the Chinese rejuvenation, the Chinese dream come true.

INSKEEP: Jennifer Pak, it's great to visit you here in Beijing. This has been fun. Thank you.

PAK: Thank you so much.

INSKEEP: We were visiting the building that President Xi showed President Trump yesterday. Today, Trump is returning to Washington, where he has building projects of his own. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.

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Jennifer Pak
Jennifer Pak is NPR's China correspondent. She has been covering China and the region for the past two decades. Before joining NPR in late 2025, Pak spent eight years as the China correspondent for American Public Media's Marketplace based in Shanghai. She has covered major stories from U.S.-China tensions and the property bubble to the zero-COVID policy. Pak provided a first-hand account of life under a two-month lockdown for 25 million residents in Shanghai. Her stories and illustration of quarantine meals on social media helped her team earn a Gracie and a National Headliner award. Pak arrived in Beijing in 2006. She was fluent in Cantonese and picked up Mandarin from chatting with Beijing cabbies. Her Mandarin skills got her a seat on the BBC's Beijing team covering the 2008 Summer Olympics and Sichuan earthquake. For six years, she was the BBC's Malaysia correspondent based in Kuala Lumpur filing for TV, radio, and digital platforms. She reported extensively on the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. Pak returned to China in 2015, this time for the UK Telegraph in Shenzhen, covering the city's rise as the "Silicon Valley of hardware." She got her start in radio in Grande Prairie, Alberta where she drove a half-ton pickup truck to blend in – something she has since tried to offset by cycling and taking public transport whenever possible. She speaks English, Cantonese, Mandarin and gets by well in French and Spanish. When traveling, Pak enjoys roaming grocery stores and posts her tasty finds on Instagram. [Copyright 2026 NPR]